\r\n 0:11\r\nEverybody, thanks for joining us, John Jay, and we have a special video here with the gentlemen who has been developing this reactor that we mentioned on this show recently.\r\n0:23\r\nAnd so, he's going to explain a few things that we're starting with, a chart, showing what he's constructed. And ... <\/div>\r\n
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0:11
\nEverybody, thanks for joining us, John Jay, and we have a special video here with the gentlemen who has been developing this reactor that we mentioned on this show recently.
\n0:23
\nAnd so, he's going to explain a few things that we're starting with, a chart, showing what he's constructed. And I think the purpose here is to simply provide a way where people, consumers, is for consumers.
\n0:35
\nAs we're looking at, we can make this, um, utility scale, but this is going to be for consumers and things like powering their home in a way more efficient way, OK. Or other applications like using equipment, OK, we're replacing, reducing the need first for fuel. This is going to dramatically decrease the need for fuel. So it's way better at explaining some of this stuff.
\n0:57
\nSo, John.
\n0:58
\nGo ahead, Anna, I'll just let you talk about this chart here.
\n1:04
\nWhat you're seeing in front of you is what I have put together for John to show him and at one of those properties, recently and this is what I brought him. A diagram, what I brought him. We're going to have a video later. Show. Hit show all you all are working on, but it's better to get the terms out now and and explain exactly what you see here.
\n1:26
\nBasically what we're doing is we're taking any type of combustible liquids we're throwing it into a bubbler, the bubbler mixtures of liquids together and the engine vacuum vaporizes it through a reaction, through a heat exchange reaction where you explain that.
\n1:49
\nSo if you look at the diagram of the 6.5 horsepower, one cylinder generator, you see little heat arrows coming up, and here is going down through a muffler.
\n1:59
\nAnd then you see a tube within a tube.
\n2:03
\nBasically, this is where the hot engine exhaust heats up the heats up, the very cold fluid coming into the bottom of the heat exchanger.
\n2:15
\nAnd this creates a plasmic. Lightening effect essentially is it's the best way explaining it is a lightning storm.
\n2:25
\nWhen you have a lightning storm out in nature, when you have is too hot, you have to find some pressure coming through. The ones hot ones coding, when they hit each other at, different, at different altitude, they create lightning and thunder, you have a static discharge. So, they're doing the same thing, but in a vacuum at higher temperatures central.
\n2:45
\nAnd, so, when we, when we look at the video, you'll see all the plumbing and all the video, The layout, how it is, this is just to help people long to understand what they're looking at when we talk about the reactor.
\n3:01
\nSo, I would pause the video, then. If you want to study this more, feel free.
\n3:07
\nYeah, OK, great, so I'm gonna switch over to our actual demonstration.
\n3:14
\nThis is on our Saturday, Saturday, the 18, March 18th, we did this, You are kind enough to drive down from Pennsylvania.
\n3:20
\nSo, show this app.
\n3:22
\nso all right, We don't need the audio, right. Just play it.
\n3:27
\nYeah, it's prayer.
\n3:31
\nAnd here it is, Here's the generator unit.
\n3:36
\nThis is A This.
\n3:40
\nThis was a generator from a rental facility in Missouri. I, they posted it on Facebook, I got it for 200 bucks.
\n3:49
\nIsn't fairly good condition, and it's a, it's a three kilowatt generator, essentially, and uh, I ran it to lose testing, I had to rewire at a couple of times but now it's a very good working order.
\n4:04
\nWhat you're seeing here, I don't know, John, do you have a laser pointer ability or something or not that I know of.
\n4:13
\nWhat you're looking at right now is the, is the reactor heat, the heat, the aluminum heat heat exchanger, Are you looking at the air valves right there or in the engine?
\n4:25
\nRight there that blue handle valve is an air mixture bow.
\n4:29
\nIt mixes in, fresh air to the weight to, to the reactive gasses through the copper tubes there.
\n4:38
\nThat there is the bubbler then in the diagram. It's there's a little bit more on that butler the notes on the diagram but we're still rushed exact same way.
\n4:50
\nWhat's that rod there? You got in the ground.
\n4:53
\nThat's a grounding rod for the generator.
\n4:56
\nI don't like running ground me, I don't like running generators without being grounded to earth, like, no.
\n5:03
\nThey don't have unnatural ground. They can short out.
\n5:07
\nAlso, the reactor likes to put out different RF energies and what to hatless gratitude.
\n5:16
\nSo if we don't have a ground, what might happen? I've had a helicopter from my house.
\n5:23
\nIs attention? Are you getting?
\n5:26
\nI don't think it was for that That it was coincidental? I don't know. It wasn't the same day. That's very interesting to make a sound like. It's from the generator circuit. I've had electronics wig out really close to the reactor. Yeah, OK.
\n5:45
\nWhen it's running, that's right here. Demonstrating here is just a simple for gas meter.
\n5:51
\nIt's if they are used primarily for like, miners or maintenance workers. If you have to go into enclosed space, this mirror will tell you how much oxygen is in the air. How much explosive elements are in the air?
\n6:04
\nHow much CO is in the air, or carbon dioxide in the air? Things like that. And what I use it primarily to sample the exhaust gasses coming off of the reactor.
\n6:17
\nBefore they hit air.
\n6:18
\nThat's a Tech Commoner for the engine speeds.
\n6:20
\nSo I know what the speech reading it, since this engine is no longer governed with, with a manual corporater, that there in front of you, on the ground is a catch.
\n6:31
\nIt is a water catch system for the for the meter.
\n6:36
\nBecause this thing looks to speed a little bit of water on startup.
\n6:40
\nSo, there's the ground Rod.
\n6:45
\nEspecially in good John's seeded for the land trying to put some grass seed on the side of the house.
\n6:53
\nYeah.
\n7:02
\nSo, you're gonna crank this up. I think there's nothing else here. Let me see if I can go. We'll go forward mentoring right now, just setting up here.
\n7:11
\nAlright, so pause the video there.
\n7:14
\nSo, this is another reactor that's obviously not on the unit right now, but it's a good demonstration of what, what's going on, if you take your mouse, John.
\n7:24
\nOr, Yeah, so that, right. So, that little bent to right there.
\n7:28
\nThat is what we sampled the exhaust gasses with, that there is, oh, there's another Bent tube inside that bigger tube that goes directly and down that 90 degrees, and that actually, I get very good, non contaminated exhaust gasses contaminated processes, meaning that they're not coming from, I'm not pulling air from the outside. I'm going actually what the reactor is, what the engine is exhausting and not anything else.
\n7:54
\nAnd, you see that: I guess, Jonquiere move your mouse to Nourish Part to another part of the reactor. And I can explain exactly what they're seeing.
\n8:07
\nSo, you can see my mouse, right, so, the pointer, and what do you want to look at over here? So, that's the intake to the, to the reactor, OK.
\n8:15
\nAll right, And if you keep going going down, that Big 90 there in front of you is exhaust of the Reactor Exhaust. From the engine that goes to a muffler, essentially!
\n8:27
\nIf you go up the, that is the heat exchanger part. There is a tube within a tube in there.
\n8:33
\nYeah. So that's a big one inch NPT outer Tube. And there's a half inch and NPT inner Tube with a space between the outer, the outer.
\n8:45
\nI'm sorry there's a space between the ID of the one inch and the OD of the half in that space, about $100,000.
\n8:52
\nAnd I've run that space down to almost a mm and the engine runs, it's going actually quite and I actually ran Yeah.
\n9:04
\nWow, OK.
\n9:07
\nit's all connected by ... welding. And that, that part of that, where the mouse is right now, that's, that's the heat exchanger intake. So that that is directly directly bolted to the exhaust port on the cylinder head of the engine.
\n9:25
\nUp top there, where you see that breastfeeding and that's where the gas, the reform gas, comes out of the reactor in to the, to the heat exchanger.
\n9:36
\nOK, and all this is still the same thing, right, Alice?
\n9:40
\nYeah, let me just hit play here and see what else.
\n9:50
\nThe only difference between these reactors is a one is just longer, OK. They both have the same geometry in terms of inner and outer pipes.
\n9:57
\nSo, that right arrow pointing to right now, and the generator that is the same deals is smaller.
\n10:02
\nIt's just yeah, it's just, yeah, just shorter. Yeah?
\n10:06
\nAll right, here's the idea of the two.
\n10:08
\nHey, there's me.
\n10:10
\nYeah.
\n10:17
\nHere.
\n10:19
\nThat's the top of the bubbler, set up right here.
\n10:23
\nSo you're putting, we're gonna put a liter of gas, a liter of water. And I think it was about a half a liter of E two twice used cooking oil, Vegetable, Oil, civically. No it was grape seed oil. You said you remember it was grape seed oil? Yes.
\n10:35
\nYes. go, we got to know these things. We should say grape seed oil just happened to be, we buy oil on sale, right? So whatever's on sale. And that's what we ended up with. I've used it twice already to make french fries. I just happen to have it that day.
\n10:48
\nAnd I had never read run.
\n10:49
\nAny type of cooking oils in here before, but so there, so their top valve there. I own and put the funnel in there to start loading fuel in. My was good.
\n11:03
\none example what I'm doing right now.
\n11:07
\nFirst, so that's our the fuels in just talking about that same thing again. She's asked pipe from the on the cylinder head.
\n11:16
\nOh, and these are all just pipe Fittings. This is not what a commercial unit would look like this.
\n11:24
\nWhat you're seeing right now is an R&E application. Essentially.
\n11:29
\nThis is all modular set up so that I can break it apart and change things as as testing goes on.
\n11:37
\nA commercial to the public unit would be completely tig.
\n11:41
\nwelding, stainless steel, OK.
\n11:46
\nLet me skip ahead a little bit, showing more, run off a carburetor, not with now's. Right, OK.
\n11:58
\nYou mentioned this, OK. This is the, this is one of the reactor rods I've run.
\n12:04
\nYou can, if we go back to there and pause the, the video where you had that right in front of the camera.
\n12:14
\nYou see the different colors of the rod that indicates different heat zones on the rod.
\n12:19
\nSo the lighter, the color, the less the temperature is. I have a colored shirt.
\n12:24
\nI found on the on the internet that we actually digital and get an explanation, but, say at the plan of the rod that was 100 degrees Fahrenheit Are 200 degrees Fahrenheit, at that blue part is indicating that it got up to pretty close to 6 or 700 degrees Fahrenheit.
\n12:40
\nAnd all in-between.
\n12:43
\nIf you see those horizontal lines in the rod right below his thumb, those are indications of a a plasmid discharge.
\n12:52
\nSo, you have super hot. Yeah, sure. Yeah, super cold vapor. Come again, because the vapors under vacuum versus a super hot exhaust.
\n13:01
\nFlowing around the pipe that that's in and you have, you have, you have a light, you have a pleasant discharge between the rod and the and in the ID of the cut ID of the inner pipe.
\n13:16
\nThat's what you're seeing here for lines: walls, OK.
\n13:20
\nIt's always suspended in The Tube and pointing to Yes.
\n13:24
\nSo the way it works is I have a spring inside that too, that that spring is only there to sit, to hold the write up initially on startup.
\n13:34
\nHere we are putting in straight 87 octane, with all the wonderful detergents and alcohols and ethanol, and ethanol's in it.
\n13:45
\nWe're always very careful to measure out exactly what I, what I put in.
\n13:52
\nSo that was a leader. I was to 500, 500 milliliters of fuel, so that's the one. So 1 1 1 liter of gasoline goes in, taking a garden hose and we're filling it up with water to dissect. Same chart show. It'll be a 50 50 mixture of water and gasoline, and then right here is the vegetable oil the oil. Yes, there's a, there's a grape seed oil right there. We're going to dump data that's about that was about 950 milliliters if I remember, right? Yep, that was 400 liters.
\n14:22
\nAnd then, there, I am just, uh, adjusting the level, make sure we get exactly one liter of water.
\n14:32
\nAll right, wow.
\n14:35
\nYes.
\n14:40
\nSo, that was that had Ethernet let's see, let's go back there.
\n14:44
\nRight, that gets us started, right, Yes.
\n14:47
\nWhat you're looking at right now is the, uh, the way I measure the exhaust gas.
\n14:57
\nYes, did you want to explain about the exhaust gasses that you're observing?
\n15:02
\nYeah, so right now we're surveying for output on exhaust gasses.
\n15:08
\nSame output as your breathing, so when we initially started this off, I took a note on the video that the meter read on startup before we started the engine of an atmosphere, 21.7% oxygen content in the air.
\n15:25
\nThat's what, was, this, an open it or not?
\n15:27
\nThat's what the meter is reading later on in this video, you'll see 22.2, We saw 22.1 O 2 on video, and we saw even higher at 22.5% O two content coming through that mirror.
\n15:46
\nAt the same time, there's high there's a hydrocarbon sensor on the mirror, which, which detects unused fuels, or hydrogens texts, all kinds of stuff that that's flammable, It's basically, it's the tech stuff that that, this platform so you don't walk into a room and you know, globally.
\n16:05
\nTrue.
\n16:06
\nAnd, yeah.
\n16:10
\nWe'll see later on the video is that the engine is running perfectly smooth and you're having an extremely high O two output higher than it is what in what's in normal air and at the same time, extremely high levels of hydrocarbon output.
\n16:26
\nWhich is an oxymoron if you think about it.
\n16:28
\nBecause the what's going on inside the cylinder is you have your oxygen, you have you have you have your fuel, and the fuel ignites, the oxygen and can bus and the oxygen is combusted with the fuel and output, and when you get out you output no oxygen essentials.
\n16:48
\nAnd instead, tests with these engines of this size with, with no modification, you can typically see three or 4% oxygen output sometimes, or zero, none at all.
\n16:59
\nAnd then, on normally, you'd see five or 6% hydrocarbon output, but to see such a high hydrocarbon output and oxygen output at the same time is not possible according to today's science.
\n17:15
\nIt's not the best science there is.
\n17:18
\nSo here I am starting it up.
\n17:20
\nUh, stop there to grab the RPM or I use an RPM mirror to control the amount of fuel consumption, essentially. So, I always, I always try to keep it at 3600 RPM, in that, between 34, say, 38.
\n17:35
\nSo I always get consistent results.
\n17:41
\nNow on this run, since I never use any type of vegetable oil, I've always just used gasoline or water or a mixture of both.
\n17:51
\nI've used also really crappy, waste gasoline, gasoline from, you know, the asthma sitting for years. You know, like, that's the stuff.
\n18:00
\nYou don't want to use it in your car, that someone left in their car again, I believe that everyone, right, OK.
\n18:08
\nI'm having it right now.
\n18:09
\nSo if you'll notice, I'm really trying to get that top valves to shut because I wasn't Pennsylvania. It was, I was always able to shut the top out pretty much right away.
\n18:20
\nBut this this grape seed oil really made the the efficiency crazy and so it needed more air than I was given a hint so I had to leave it open for a little bit longer as you can see my hand there is adjusting the bow to the bubbler in the bubbler. There is a vacuum being created, and it's pulling all the lighter elements off the liquids in there.
\n18:43
\nAnd what's also happening in the bubbler is that the water and the gasoline and grape seed oil they're all mixing and churning together because you have air coming down down on a dip tube, essentially, do the bottom to the bottom of the liquid.
\n19:02
\nAnd I control the amount of air going into the bubbler.
\n19:07
\nWith a with a Val. And here are just getting started.
\n19:11
\nThere's always a little bit finicky to start up, especially in winter and the research mode because yes, for long, long instance of to get fuel vapor, to the actual engine to combust, it takes a while to get there.
\n19:24
\nBut like I said it in a commercial application. It's just won't be an issue because we'll have a carburetors literally sitting on the back of the reactor and you give it to submit 3 or 4 poles. And I'll start right up.
\n19:39
\nAlso have noticed this, too, is when these things heat up initially, they, you'll get it running, and it runs a certain way.
\n19:49
\nAnd then, the RPMs will start to climb by themselves. And what's happening is when the reactor is getting hotter and hotter, the fuel is getting lighter and lighter inside the chamber. And it's just racing, and it starts to erase the engine. So, you gotta, you gotta kinda just for that, and it takes about, I don't know, 2, 3 minutes to get the reactor temperature so that you'll have to worry about that anymore.
\n20:10
\nSee, I'm using my hands hands to jump forward a little bit.
\n20:19
\nStill making adjustments. All right, some measure now. Putting the meter on.
\n20:23
\nAll right, Yeah, I don't put the meter on right away because using either to start it.
\n20:29
\nWhat you don't have to use, either restarted, it will start on. Songs just takes longer book.
\n20:34
\nI don't, I don't like the ether particles go into the mirror if I can avoid it.
\n20:39
\nAnd I can't see anything right now, because it's not at the right angle.
\n20:44
\nSo, sure.
\n20:48
\nShe's a minute marker, 2701. You can see a really clear image of it.
\n20:58
\nSo, at this point, the, This has been running for over 10 minutes.
\n21:05
\nOK, so 21.5%. That's pretty much what you're breathing.
\n21:09
\nYes, the outside air temperature, that means that, that, that was the outside air, the outside air, current volumes.
\n21:18
\nAnd the reason I know, I'm not reading the outside air is because this is a positive pressure system. The exhaust gasses are being pushed into the meat or not, not not the other way around. Vacuum.
\n21:29
\nif you notice the excess than the 81% LDL the LLC, it's for lower explosive litt.
\n21:38
\nAll right, and when that's at 100%, that means you have straight combustibles stuff.
\n21:44
\nAnd the problem is I don't know what combustible stuff that's representing because that mirrors designed just to tell you there's something in there that's combustible must tell you what it is.
\n21:53
\nBut, those things, in terms of what we're telling you is, it is telling you that this hydrogen is telling you that it's propane, or methanol, I'm sorry.
\n22:02
\nMet met methane ethanol, gasoline, any type of, any type of hard vapor that would really not want want want to explode that, that meter that little tells you that.
\n22:16
\nSo, we have to get something that's going to tell us what's what's in there. Not just a collection of, It's a bunch of things.
\n22:22
\nThat's going to have a list of specifically what's that'll help us work with configuring so reactor? Yeah, so that will help us to figuring the rod.
\n22:30
\nBecause right now, the way things are going is that everything I change is a permutation and changes the fuel consumption and changes the overall test results on in terms of what I'm getting out of the meter.
\n22:43
\nThe thing is, too is this mirror is not designed to be constantly hammered like this in terms of seeing this type of stuff. It's not designed for that at all. It's designed to every once in awhile. If something bad in there, and then that's it, Not constant. Right, OK.
\n22:59
\nSo, if you go to Market Mitnick, marker 29, 50, yeah, 50, Pauses at 29, Shifty, you'll see.
\n23:17
\nIt'll get there. So right now, the end isn't running. If you want to turn the sound on you, can. Right now, some people here at room, But.
\n23:32
\nI can't hear.
\n23:35
\nWanted to Wow. I was right there. Yeah, OK.
\n23:41
\nfive more seconds. Go.
\n23:44
\nSentence.
\n23:50
\nThere you go.
\n23:52
\nThat right. Fire is an impossibility that is producing more oxygen than what you read. And currently.
\n23:59
\nAgain, this is it logical fallacies.
\n24:01
\nThis is something that's not possible in current and current, non field theory science.
\n24:06
\nBut it is possible with film theory, which I'm not going to go into, because I am not that well depth, much better at that stuff.
\n24:15
\nYou're going to skip ahead a little bit.
\n24:19
\nAlso, I wanted to comment, too this during this video, during the times we had, we had, we had the camera on the on the meter. You'll see the mirror that you'll see the lower explosive limit and the option just wildly swinging back and forth. Like the, the the the How did. The ... will go from 0 to 85 to 0 to 85 0 to 85. The oxygen will go down to 5 to 22.1 to 5, and anywhere, and everywhere in between just wildly going all over the place.
\n24:51
\nWhich is a very good sign, is also, it's also a sign out too, that we really need a, an analyzer to actually record these results. And get and start doing some, some Excel spreadsheets and some charting.
\n25:05
\nYeah.
\n25:16
\nWith this setup, you constantly have to adjust the the, the opening of the valve to the bubbler, to maintain our RPM because as you go along the the fuel gets. Essentially it gets heavier and heavier.
\n25:30
\nBecause when you when you're vaporizing the fuel in the bubbler, all the lighter stuff comes up first, and that's what initially it starts off of.
\n25:38
\nAnd then as as Iran gets longer and longer and longer, the, the, the feel essentially starts getting more diesel kerosene like, it's kinda interesting.
\n25:51
\nThat's, we weren't going to do a load test, but I just didn't have time to set it up.
\n25:56
\nRight.
\n25:57
\nThe right now, the the the the January is under load of half amps for this cooling fan for the heat exchanger.
\n26:04
\nNow, if you notice those two copper tubes cause John.
\n26:13
\nThose two copper tubes, the bomb, the one on the bottom is taking the hot gas from the reactor into the bottom of that heat exchanger. And along the top is taking the gas to the intake of the engine.
\n26:25
\nAll right.
\n26:27
\nAll right.
\n26:32
\nYou still have finally got the bow shock after almost turning, right?
\n26:39
\nIt's also crazy about this thing, too, is that you you can run the RPM just by the air, you don't actually have to change the fuel meter in Bell Z. If you set the metering valve to where it's running, you can change the crazy RPM by just opening up the air more air to it.
\n26:58
\nKinda, like running written, lean, but it doesn't run. It doesn't like it doesn't have a run Lean.
\n27:05
\nI've never seen it run Lean.
\n27:07
\nAlmost to the point where I was not, or I was worried.
\n27:11
\none of the things I do with this, is like, I have a temperature gun, and I constantly check the engine temperatures in various points versus stock.
\n27:21
\nAnd they always run colder, like the oil temperature in a unit like this runs at 150, 160 degrees Fahrenheit.
\n27:28
\nThis will be running at 100 the entire time for our, so we won't get any hot at 100, which is insane if you think about it, because that means that there's so much less wear and tear of being on the engine.
\n27:41
\nAlso, too, I've, I, if I pull the oil right now with over 15 hours of run time on it, I bet you, it's still clear.
\n27:50
\nThere's no carbon in it.
\n27:52
\nWow.
\n27:55
\nIt's also interesting, as well, is pull the reactor off and you look down, the cylinder head through the exhaust port. The exhaust port is clean.
\n28:05
\nLike aluminum color, it's not black at all.
\n28:08
\nThat's, That's also a very high education that there's lots of oxygen Lots. because, often, so, oxygen is essentially an oxidizer, and it's a cleaning agents.
\n28:18
\nMore or less in a vacuum and That's just removing any carbon that is forming.
\n28:25
\nThere, I am.
\n28:25
\nlooking down the, the site class at the raw to see what I can see.
\n28:32
\nThat Rod goes all over the place in there.
\n28:35
\nSometimes it's been, Sinatra doesn't this. By the way, that this whole system was based off of Paul Paid tones work for the gate fuel reformer.
\n28:46
\nAnd along a lot of times, I think that this is not working, and then something else happens. And I said, Oh, he was right about that again. Sorry about that again.
\n28:59
\nYeah, it's It's gotten to the point now where it I think this is a legit, viable system. I I literally have probably 2000 hours of research into this already.
\n29:12
\nJust running engines.
\n29:15
\nI got notebooks. Full of notes.
\n29:18
\nOh, yeah.
\n29:19
\nYeah, John, John saw the notebooks where it shows me videos of his garage, which looks like a machine shop.
\n29:26
\nYeah, yeah.
\n29:27
\nI mean, I can describe that this thing as much as, say a sci-fi movie, Uh, and he put all this stuff together, it's amazing. So, this is just a working model that works, so, you can demonstrate.
\n29:40
\nAnd it's good, that I think, too, it's not working 100% of what, to what I am happy with yet, but it is working. It is doing sampling. The the oxygen output is very clear on that.
\n29:52
\nIf it wasn't working at all, you would never see the opposite. You would see a completely steady state oxygen level of like, two or 3%.
\n29:59
\nIt was doing nothing at all.
\n30:01
\nSo, ideally, let's say, and correct me here, but I'm just going to say, my understanding is that it looks like we can take a generator.
\n30:07
\nWe can modify the fuel system, the exhaust system.
\n30:10
\nAnd we can what we end up looking like a typical generator in a confined space. It wouldn't be all these tubes and wires and everything. It will look like, you know, production something or you get a Home Depot.
\n30:22
\nYeah, OK.
\n30:23
\nSo, this would run way more efficient, way more efficient, that's a scientific term, then a generator off the shelf.
\n30:30
\nSo, what does that translate into?
\n30:32
\nWhat kind of applications may be powering your house?
\n30:35
\nPowering your house, powering equipment out in the middle of nowhere.
\n30:39
\nLike if you're a gold mining, all right and you're in the middle of the Yukon, for instance, you know, it's It's a lot of money to power that diesel pump pump, all that water is a lot of money to pump to make an electrically make electricity out there.
\n30:54
\nAnd doubt, Those are the low hanging fruit applications right now.
\n30:59
\nUm, for home use, it's, it's hard to compete with, with electric being below 30, 30 kilowatts, 30% per kilowatt hour. If you get above that, then this thing will just destroy it in terms of cost.
\n31:16
\nBut, but yeah, the home use is is, I mean, this can go on a lawnmower or on your tractor and you'll just get better fuel economy. Better fuel savings.
\n31:28
\nTell me, like on this application where they're mining gold.
\n31:31
\nYeah, some, some system like this is kind of like a lot bigger.
\n31:34
\nBut you're looking at a difference of millions of dollars a year, right? And energy costs, right? The all, the royal one of these, or, for gold, miners, in a properly working system, is months. Not years. Months, OK?
\n31:49
\nSaid Pay for itself in months.
\n31:51
\nI mean, it's just, it's just a simple thought experiment.
\n31:55
\nIf you're massive eight inch pumps uses one thousand gallons of diesel every week, and now it only uses 600 or 700.
\n32:05
\nYou do the math.
\n32:05
\nHow much is diesel per gallon to get it delivered there, 10 bucks a gallon, 15 bucks a gallon, You go. So realistically, this can be twice as efficient as what we have off the shelf.
\n32:17
\nYes. So that's beginning to get interesting.
\n32:20
\nIt's not that exciting yet. But what do you, what do you think possibility would be like making it even way more efficient?
\n32:27
\nWhat's realistic?
\n32:29
\nIf we have, if I had the time to do it and do this full-time, it's, I think this in 2 or 3 years and especially if we can get some of the geek guys out of hiding.
\n32:41
\nRight. Yeah, we have to get them out of their spider holes.
\n32:44
\nYou know, and that would also help two hours or so.
\n32:49
\nI mean, the thing that I keep going back to is that Paul Pantone did this for almost 40 years.
\n32:54
\nAnd an entire time they can never prove fraud.
\n32:59
\nSure, it was, It worked for me.
\n33:01
\nAnd he was never run out on a rail. Yeah. They put them in prison under corruption charges, but they're all dropped. His son Got them out and took an act of. Congress came out of jail, but they hadn't been a Loony bin, and didn't even know where he was, he had to find them. So I was able to talk with poll in 2004.
\n33:18
\nI think, I think he died around 2008, something like that.
\n33:21
\nI was 16, maybe Maybe, I don't know.
\n33:25
\nI know his research is out there.
\n33:27
\nAsked us yet research available to published posthumously. And he laughed. And he said, Yeah, I do, I have yet to see it. Maybe they're afraid to publish it.
\n33:37
\nI don't know, but this is really game changing, I think, I mean, OK, so just like What we're seeing right now Are doubling our efficiency, OK, that's getting somewhere, maybe, but what if it's 4 or 5 or 10 times more efficient? Is that even?
\n33:48
\nI mean, let's say You were talking about the other day, I don't know if I want to mention what Gasifiers, But what about this type of engine being 35% efficient or 50%? Can we put a number like that on it?
\n34:02
\nYeah, I can safely constantly say right now, in my research, I can easily do 25 to 35% efficiency right now, with what I would for all the testing I've done.
\n34:12
\nHow does that compare with what we're getting retail off the shelf?
\n34:17
\nWell, I mean, it's just so efficiency is based off of what the retail is off the shelf. OK, so, sorry, I measure everything and milliliters of fuel use per minute.
\n34:28
\nOK, and an off the shelf seven, Horsepower Dura Max Engine will do 16 mentally as a minute.
\n34:35
\nOK, that's the number right, width with no load.
\n34:38
\nAnd I've had that Sandra Maps engine run in eight milliliters a minute, those are the numbers, I want people to understand what they mean, but we are covering what number Well, that that's the percent increase, OK, there it is, and so, we have kind of an upside down way we can make this better, right? Yeah.
\n34:58
\nWe just need better gages, maybe some better tooling or equipment or something and some time. Yes, that's, that's the thing the time.
\n35:06
\nAnd for what guests, fire, like you were saying, oh, that would be great application for a low gas fire pumping that would gas through that reactor.
\n35:14
\nI think that's be a home run in terms of helping to clean the wood gas, OK.
\n35:22
\nFantastic.
\n35:24
\nWell, thanks for all that work. That is amazing. I'm just, is beyond me. how you can even do that, John, was Show me some of his work. I can't imagine a person A human being does what, he was showing me. I'm like, wait a minute! How does your brain even work to be able to do that? But he's amazing.
\n35:37
\nThis is like nothing to, and it looks like, correct me if I'm wrong, but I mean this, to him that's like coloring a coloring book.
\n35:45
\nIt's amazing what he did. So I'm sure I'm sure there's a lot more that can be done and the applications are limitless. I mean, what, what do we want to replace?
\n35:53
\nCan we, can I run this in the car? Can I make, run a car off of it?
\n35:57
\nRedesign it.
\n35:59
\nYeah, I would think so in the future. But, like I said, the low hanging fruit right now is standalone power applications where it's constant load.
\n36:08
\nThat's, that's where I would want to focus first, but there's, yes, there's no reason why you can't learn in the car, OK.
\n36:15
\nCost alone, stand alone, OK.
\n36:19
\nOK, thanks so much, Sean. I'm gonna end the recording. I just want to add anything else.
\n36:23
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